APSUA WANTS TO JOIN EUROPE
Sukhumi is talking about war again. The de facto republic's leaders are making bellicose statements, while the majority of Abkhaz society is increasingly talking about other things: Europe, visas, and leaving Russia's orbit. Who really speaks on behalf of the people? And where does the real fault line lie—between Tbilisi and Sukhumi or within Abkhazia itself?
In this episode, Dario Kavkaz, Tornike, and Kote. A conversation without roundabout phrases or ritual formulas about issues rarely heard on air:
— Sukhumi separatists and the language of war. Who benefits from this right now?
— What the Apsua themselves are saying. The generational gap and why young people are looking to the West.
— Russia as a "protector" that has become a creditor and client.
— Georgia, the EU, and return scenarios. What's really on the table.
— The Caucasus at a time of choice. Why Abkhazia is a litmus test for the entire region.
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00:00 Sukhumi, Apsua, and Separatists - Introduction
02:43 Personal connection between the hosts and Abkhazia
04:01 300,000 refugees and the memory of the Caucasus
07:48 Poll: What does "independence" mean for Abkhazia in 2026?
10:25 The history of Apsua separatism since the late 1980s
12:39 "Special operation" instead of war — the Kremlin's linguistics
15:53 Transit and the port of Anaklia: Georgia doesn't need Sukhumi
18:23 Russia is losing ground: Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Mali
22:45 Abkhazians or Apsua — a dispute over terms
26:42 Sukhumi separatists on the war: an interview analysis
32:35 Karabakh and Yerevan as a scenario for the Caucasus
34:26 The "Golden Parliament" of 1991 and elections in Sukhumi
37:31 Russian mythology of "independent Abkhazia"
40:01 The same "fascists": Georgia 1992 and Ukraine 2022
46:13 Genocide: How 300,000 People Were Expelled from Abkhazia
50:50 80,000 vs. 300,000 — What Elections Are Possible
55:32 Georgia Pays for Electricity in Abkhazia
58:14 Why Dialogue Is Impossible While Russia is in Sukhumi
01:01:42 Georgian Passports for Abkhaz Officials
01:04:00 Chechnya, Deportations, Stalin — the Tragedy of the Caucasus
01:10:55 Dudayev, Basayev, and Georgian-Chechen Relations
01:14:44 Stalin — Georgian or Russian?
01:19:04 Liechtenstein and Luxembourg vs. Abkhazia
01:22:00 There is no "Abkhazian Side" — there is a Russian one
01:25:05 Survey Results and Conclusion