Need to Know #48 — End of the Beginning (01/05/24)
Bryce and Ross begin 2024 with a quick look back at the big events of last year: David Grusch's revelations and the gutting of the Schumer Amendment to the Defense bill. Then they look ahead to this year and an upcoming House Oversight Committee hearing, Lue Elizondo's book and Grusch's op-ed piece on the heels of the US government slightly loosening what he's able to reveal. And Ross drops a big hint about what could be a very big story: new data from the James Webb Space Telescope.
The book that Bryce references is the one he wrote with Richard Dolan, "A.D. After Disclosure: When the Government Finally Admits the Truth about Alien Contact."
Need to Know shows that UFO/UAP reality is a global issue and, as the charts and maps on our social media tell us, over half of you are from some place that isn’t the U.S.
Our hope is for an honest reckoning on the issue of UFO/UAP reality in our lifetimes. We just want to see how this one turns out.
More in ’24,
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One of our viewers posted this summary:
The podcast is a lengthy discussion between Bryce and Ross, focusing on UFO/UAP (Unidentified Flying Object/Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) developments and related topics. Here's a brief summary of the key points:
1. Grandchild's Birth: Bryce, now a grandfather, shares his experience of his granddaughter's birth on New Year's Eve, which aligns with discussions about the future and the world she will grow up in, particularly in relation to UAPs.
2. 2023 UAP Disclosure Developments: The hosts reflect on significant events from 2023, particularly the disappointing outcome of the proposed Senator Schumer Amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act. This amendment aimed to declassify UAP records and impose eminent domain on any non-human intelligence (NHI) technology or biologics, but it was not passed as hoped.
3. David Grush's Role: David Grush is highlighted as a key figure in 2023's UFO/UAP discourse. His involvement and various interviews, including with Ross, are considered vital in progressing the conversation and bringing UAP issues to the forefront.
4. Congressional Hearings and Future Prospects: The podcast discusses the importance of Congressional hearings and the need for continued attention and action on UAP issues in Congress. The hosts express hope for more action in 2023, despite setbacks.
5. UAP Shootdowns and Ongoing Investigations: The February shootdowns of UAPs over the United States are mentioned as a still-relevant and unexplained story, highlighting the need for ongoing investigation and public disclosure.
6. Legal and Corporate Aspects: The conversation touches on legal implications, especially regarding defense contractors potentially possessing UAP materials. There's discussion about the obligations of corporations to disclose such information and potential legal actions that might arise.
7. 2024 Expectations and Potential Developments: The hosts discuss what might happen in 2024, including potential Congressional actions, publications by figures like Lou Elizondo, and the role of the AARO (Anomaly Resolution Office). They speculate on the impact of new leadership in AARO and the possible release of information by the government.
8. NASA's James Webb Space Telescope Discovery: Towards the end of the podcast, there's mention of a significant discovery by NASA's James Webb Space Telescope, which potentially detected a molecule associated with life on a distant planet.
The podcast covers a range of topics, from personal anecdotes to detailed discussions on UAP-related developments and speculations about the future. The tone is serious yet hopeful for more openness and disclosure in the field of UAP research.
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