2.2 Lesbians in the North Caucasus
This episode is coming out on Lesbian Visibility Day — and we boldly call it the most lesbian episode of the podcast. In it, we continue to introduce the heroines and heroes live on air! There is one criterion — they were born in the North Caucasus.
This time, right before your eyes (and in your ears), two lesbians from Dagestan — Milya from Khasavyurt and Dana from Derbent — will tell their stories publicly for the first time (!!!) and make them visible. Such a step is a huge risk for girls from the North Caucasus, but our heroines are ready to speak openly and share these stories with you.
Inside the conversation:
— how lesbians fall in love, live and communicate in the North Caucasus
— fictitious marriages, queer places in Dagestan and dating in VKontakte publics
— forced marriage, threats and escape from the republic
— internal homophobia, coming out and awareness of one's identity
— exorcism of genies, deducing "lesbianism" and ways to recognize a lesbian
Honestly, I can't list everything - we advise you to turn on the episode as soon as possible!
0:00 - "I was sitting by my future grave"
0:29 - beginning
2:18 - acquaintance
2:48 - how did Dana understand that she was a lesbian?
4:03 - how did Mila realize herself? "I was a hardcore homophobe"
6:58 - internalized homophobia "I have a gay brother and the whole family discussed how he should be killed"
9:07 - how did people around me react to the fact that the girls were lesbians?
13:02 - Milya on how her first relationship with a girl began?
15:36 — about fictitious marriages with gays “a Caucasian man is always a Caucasian man”
16:11 — how Milya communicated with a girl under house arrest
17:20 — Dana and her acquaintance with a girl “I kissed her and said — now you are my girlfriend”
19:44 — a lesbianism textbook “I went to Google: how to recognize a lesbian”
22:52 — Dana’s departure and return, threats, violence, suicide attempt, conversation with an imam
27:46 — the story of Milya’s escape
28:45 — “it would be better if you joined ISIS and became a terrorist than if you turned out to be a lesbian”
29:15 — “I sat by my future grave”
31:35 — questions from a questionnaire for girls
35:06 — girls’ wishes to each other
36:24 — “listen to yourself and freedom (not) beyond the mountains!"
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