On this episode, I spoke to Andrew Wang, CEO and cofounder of Valon. Valon is a vertically integrated, mortgage-servicing, lending and insurance platform whose mission is “to empower every homeowner.” Valon has over 500k loans on its platform and serves roughly 1% of all homeowners in the US.
This was a special episode because Andrew was my old boss. I worked at Valon for two years, joining when it had ~50 loans and had a blast growing the company. I’m biased, but I think it's a special place with a lot to learn from.
We talked about Valon’s origin story, how regulated industries are taking a different approach to AI adoption, what makes for a good AI rollup, and why people still underrate the impact of growth solving problems in startups.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intros
01:21 The Origin Story of Valon
05:03 Why Valon built a services business, not just software
07:24 The Spaghetti Code problem in every regulated industry
12:02 How Valon uses AI and the “Congress Test”
20:21 AI Roll-ups
28:23 Fundraising lessons and why growth solves all
33:43 Managing a large operations org
36:30 Hiring lessons
41:19 Balancing first principles with industry wisdom
43:58 The importance of quick decision making in startups
48:03 Investing vs operating
50:43 Andrew’s thoughts on regulations
55:09 Alcaraz vs Sinner