A conversation between Leonid Ioffe, a columnist for Inter-Ethnic Television, and Alexander Iskandaryan, Director of the Institute of Caucasus Studies. The conversation took place in Yerevan in late October 2020, before the ceasefire over Nagorno-Karabakh. The topics covered included the tensions and cooperation between Russia and Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan's expansionist agenda, and the complexities of Russia's situation in the South Caucasus.