Suffering When God Isn't There - No Small Endeavor

Опубликовано: 28 Август 2026
на канале: No Small Endeavor
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“Suffering, I think, catalyzes an intimacy that couldn't happen otherwise.”

Christian Wiman, renowned poet and teacher at Yale Divinity School, does not say these words flippantly. Two decades ago, he was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer and given a life expectancy of five years. He has lived the past twenty years in the shadow of death and the grip of despair.

In this episode, while discussing his recent memoir “Zero at the Bone: Fifty Entries Against Despair,” Christian explores faith, doubt, joy, and sorrow in the way only a great poet can, taking the stuff of life - the mundane, confusing, chaotic, and tragic - and making meaning out of it.


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About No Small Endeavor
What does it mean to live a good life? What is true happiness? What are the habits, practices, and dispositions that facilitate human flourishing? Professor Lee C. Camp brings you conversations with those who are taking these questions seriously.

No Small Endeavor began in Nashville as “Tokens Show” in 2008, with quarterly live stage shows exploring theology, social ethics, and human flourishing. The Nashville Scene recognized the show as Nashville’s “Best Local Variety Show” which is a “grass-kicking shredfest” that is a “huge success,” with “genre-bending creativity.”
In 2020 the show began a long-form interview podcast, which led to weekly public radio broadcasts, distributed nationally on PRX.