Julian Galluzzo spent a third of his life building in Webflow. Now he builds websites, web apps, and even desktop software with AI agents — and he's not looking back.
He's the creator of ShipStudio, and in this conversation he ships a real bug fix to 3,000+ users live, on screen.
This episode covers whether "vibe coding" is just agentic development by another name, what actually changes when you stop being a "Webflow developer," why the disruption is less scary than it looks (and where the opportunity hides), and the one thing AI still can't do for you — taste.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Vibe coding — or "agentic development"?
01:24 A third of Julian's life in Webflow
04:35 The fear: clients leaving for vibe-coded sites
08:02 When the tool that defined your value changes
12:19 "We were never Webflow developers"
13:47 ShipStudio: building a product agentically
20:51 The live workflow — idea to running site
27:16 Why routing development through an MCP breaks down
35:19 Shipping a bug fix to 3,000 users, live
42:14 The hard part isn't building — it's taste
47:58 The bookkeeper and the calculator (AI won't take your job)
55:30 "That's the moving target"
56:18 Where to find Julian + wrap
LINKS:
Julian on X: https://x.com/galluzzo_julian
ShipStudio: https://ship.studio
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FOLLOW THE MOVING TARGET (host: Evgenii Tilipman):
Khod: https://khod.io
LinkedIn: / evgenii-tilipman
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