I’ve had the pleasure to shoot a lot of cans and know that a S size can I’m typically giving up performance for a more compact size. Normally subs in the shorter cans have a noticeable louder report to them. With the Diligent Defense S Ti I get my compact size and light weight I like to hunt with but performance associated with larger cans! The first time I shot it I told Chris Hansohn these guys are legit. We have a small range here at the house so the thud and steel you hear ring is 100yards down range.