The fallout with Trump wasn't a shock to Zelensky's inner circle.
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Simon Shuster has been writing about Russian and Ukrainian politics for almost 20 years. His articles, published in the American magazine Time, are among the most detailed and influential texts on what is happening in Ukraine right now.
During the first year of the war, Shuster spent a lot of time with Volodymyr Zelenskyy and wrote his biography, "Showman," which has already been translated into 18 languages and is now being published in Russian. We spoke with Simon about the war in Ukraine, the Trump-Zelensky relationship, the Russian language, the potential outcome of peace talks, freedom of speech in America, and whether Trump could destroy American public institutions, as Putin once did in Russia.
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00:00 — Introduction
00:41 — At the beginning of the war, Zelensky believed it would end quickly. What was he counting on?
03:28 — Zelensky and Trump are both showmen and outsiders. How else are they similar? 6:01 AM — Zelensky thought it would be easy for him to find common ground with Trump — why?
9:19 AM — Simon's book reveals Zelensky with all his weaknesses, without praise. How was this biography received in Ukraine?
1:51 PM — "They steal like there's no tomorrow" — how Ukrainians criticized Simon's article on corruption in Ukraine
8:05 PM — What language did Simon speak with Zelensky? Does Zelensky speak Russian now?
24:57 PM — Zaluzhny — why did Zelensky fire him, and what is his political future?
30:17 PM — American audiences are tired of Ukraine — how to regain their attention
34:33 PM — Zelensky's spat with Trump: a staged spectacle? Who won?
37:32 PM — Consequences of the spat with Trump: why wasn't the spat with Trump a shock for the Zelensky administration? 40:45 — How will the current peace talks end?
43:54 — Will Trump be able to destroy free speech in America, as Putin did in Russia?
46:30 — Do institutions work in America? Will Trump succeed in destroying them?