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Chapters
0:00 - was there ever a time when drums felt like work?
6:28 - is social media an addiction?
12:39 - why is there so little emphasis on improv in traditional drum instruction
17:12 - does Joel get "hot dogs" hitting him up for lessons?
20:30 - how to get into odd-length groupings
28:11 - going from "magic" to "not magic"
36:50 - skating and bjj as analogies for flow
39:15 - a good-natured argument about independence