Mark Zuckerberg — AI will write most Meta code in 18 months
Zuck on:
Llama 4, benchmark gaming, open vs source
Intelligence explosion, business models for AGI
DeepSeek/China, export controls, & Trump
Orion glasses, AI relationships, and not getting reward-hacking by our tech
𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒
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𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒
00:00:00 – How Llama 4 compares to other models
00:12:20 – Intelligence explosion
00:27:22 – AI friends, therapists & girlfriends
00:35:56 – DeepSeek & China
00:40:35 – Open source AI
00:55:01 – Monetizing AGI
00:59:18 – The role of a CEO
01:02:50 – Is big tech aligning with Trump?
01:07:56 – 100x productivity