What if your OKRs are actually holding you back? Radhika Dutt flips goal-setting on its head, showing why most leaders chase numbers instead of progress. She unpacks performance illusion when teams look successful but quietly stall and how a puzzle-based approach creates real ownership and innovation.
We dive into her Dutt’s Law (“metrics are for insight, not evaluation”), why curiosity beats control, and how to run teams that tell the truth instead of gaming the numbers. This episode isn’t anti-goals – it’s about building smarter ones that actually grow your people and your business.
Website: https://www.radicalproduct.com
LinkedIn: / radhika-dutt
Timestamps:
00:00 — Cold Open & Intro
03:42 — Turning OKRs on Their Head (Where Goals Really Came From)
06:55 — Performance Illusion: When Numbers Lie to Leaders
07:35 — Goals vs Puzzles: A Simple Question That Changes Everything
12:49 — Dutt’s Law: Metrics Are for Insight, Not Evaluation
17:28 — The Avid Story: Hitting Targets While Losing the Market
21:19 — The Infinite Game: How to Stay Curious and Keep Growing
23:19 — Fear of Losing Control: Leaders and the Puzzle Mindset
31:02 — The O-H-L-A Method: Objectives, Hypotheses, Learnings, Adaptation
31:23 — Psychological Safety: Getting the Truth from Your Team
38:13 — Why Big, Hairy Goals Are Bullshit
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