Getting Hired in OT Cybersecurity Without the Right Certs
A popular question I get asked often is "How do I get a job in OT/ICS cybersecurity?" When I think of the question, I can't think of a better person to answer it than Josh Fullmer, one of two recruiters for Dragos. If you're not familiar with Dragos, they are one of the world's leading OT/ICS cybersecurity firms.
In this conversation, we talk about Josh's path to working at Dragos, how he posts on LinkedIn, why it's important to your job search and answers so many questions on what it takes to get your dream role in OT/ICS cybersecurity (or any other field).
Join me for this enlightening conversation for anyone that wants to get into, or that works in, the OT/ICS cybersecurity space!
00:00 Intro
02:00 Who is Josh Fullmer?
06:03 How Josh Got started at Idaho National Labs (INL) and the road to Dragos
05:31 Everyone Asks - "How do I get a job in OT/ICS Cybersecurity?"
09:43 How Josh got started posting on LinkedIn
11:18 Josh's LinkedIn journey
13:16 LinkedIn is the BEST way to find an OT/ICS cybersecurity job
16:05 How you should be using LinkedIn to find a job
17:55 Why cybersecurity certifications don't matter at Dragos
19:15 Do certifications matter in the OT/ICS/SCADA cybersecurity world?
23:48 The Three Lane Highway for finding a new role
24:20 #1: Know how to market yourself
25:05 #2: You've got to have a target
26:20 #3: You've got to get to know people
26:45 There is no barrier to entry for the OT/ICS cybersecurity community
27:43 Real World Case Study: Sasha's Story
29:25 The power of community in connecting with jobs
31:36 The great things that can happen after you get your first OT/ICS cybersecurity job
33:45 What areas in OT/ICS are really hiring for OT/ICS cybersecurity roles right now?
40:49 How do I get experience without having a job first?
42:35 Reverse engineering the job search / Creating a vision for yourself
43:50 Decide what you need to get the position you want\
50:01 Your career path in OT cybersecurity is not a straight line
52:58 What are some of the junior OT cybersecurity roles out there?
56:18 Go learn from the people that are one step ahead of you
01:00:40 Thank you for watching!!!
Looking for Josh?
LinkedIn: / josh-fullmer
Dragos: https://dragos.com
Special thanks to Josh for coming and sharing with everyone!
And thank YOU for watching!!!
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