In this episode of the podcast, we explore the present day legal and political conundrum psilocybin mushrooms are facing as they sit on the verge of a significant change in their criminal status; the historical impact of mushroom tourism on the indigenous cultures that work with psilocybin; how that history is impacting those cultures today; and how all of this is influencing the complex political situation mushrooms now sit in the middle of. Our guest is Mijal Schmidt.
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**Full Topics Breakdown Below**
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Episode Breakdown
(00:00) Opening
(1:44) Episode Sponsor: Magicbag.co
(2:50) Patron Thanks
(3:35) Guest Bio
(4:44) Interview Begins
(6:40) The present legal/political landscape of psilocybin mushrooms in Mexico
(15:44) The involvement of indigenous peoples in the changing laws around mushrooms
(24:39) The conflicts that mushroom tourism has created between indigenous people and its impact on changing legislation
(37:39) What does it mean to be “poor” in a context of cultural richness
(43:51) The Mushroom Velada (indigenous mushroom ceremony)
(48:03) How the cultural context of mushroom use impacts what is offers the person taking them
(51:44) The modern “shamanic” traditions using psilocybin mushrooms in Mexico and the impact of mushroom tourism on those traditions
(58:53) The problems created by mushroom tourism in San Jose del Pacifico
(1:04:32) The potential spiritual extractivism of psychedelic tourism
(1:12:03) Doesn’t tourism—psychedelic and otherwise—offer economic benefits?
(1:19:30) The hope and the fear of what will come of the psychedelic renaissance
(1:30:28) The possibility of not knowing | asking ourselves what our healing is taking from others
(1:33:41) The limitations of me-focused psychedelic healing
learning to think relationally
(1:37:47) Bringing play and joy back into life (and the conversation)
(1:40:50) Learning to think relationally
(1:43:55) What Mijal would like to see for the future of Psilocybin Mushrooms in Mexico
(1:53:10) Outro
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