Contemporary visual artists and Punkrocker, Cliff Roman and Detlef Schlich in an ArTEEtude conversation. Roman lets us in on the secret of how to reactivate the creative energy of a punk rocker in the 21st century, after all those years teaching math and art at the Oliver Wendell Holmes Humanities Magnet School. At the end, we listen to Cliff Roman´s song I ROBOT. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...