Brett and I discuss the origins of his professional kayaking, what actions matured his mind to catch up with his athletic body, his needs to 'get lost, the outdoors, what he feels on the River and an activated teaching pedagogy for kids that teaches them to seek knowledge through experiential learning rather than answers they were told.
"If you're always trying to find the answer, you're missing the whole damn point of the whole thing. It's not about the answer. It just. It just is. It is. Ya know. It just is. We're here. We're gonna die. It's magical mystery land on the in-between parts."