Continuous compliance without toil for IT operators or slowing down developers is today's "holy grail" of DevOps. Torsten talks to Priya Sateesh (IBM, Offering Director for Cloud Pak for Multicloud) and Robin Hernandez (VP IBM Hybrid Multicloud) about how IBM's cloud platform can achieve this illusive goal by facilitating policy-driven DevOps with out-of-the-box compliance templates. Here it is critical to align the tasks and goals of DevOps and application lifecycle management through continuous reinforcement learning cycles.